shiro-white 2022-10-03 23:13
The graphics looks so damn cool!
Foon → Ludum Dare Explorer → LD51 → Imminent
| Category | Rank | Score | Count | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Overall | 1221 | 2.41 | 37 | |
| Fun | 1219 | 2.15 | 37 | |
| Innovation | 1177 | 2.37 | 37 | |
| Theme | 1199 | 2.28 | 37 | |
| Graphics | 982 | 2.88 | 38 | |
| Humor | 930 | 2.10 | 36 | |
| Mood | 1111 | 2.66 | 36 |
The graphics looks so damn cool!
good art taste
I can't seem to reach any sort of end state and my score keeps dropping, making it difficult to keep track of my high score. I think the writing was a bit over bearing. Love the art tho, and the visually busy radar screen added to the tension.
EDIT: I WAS NOT AWARE OF WHAT THIS GAME’S STORY WAS IMPLYING, AND MADE THIS COMMENT WITHOUT BEING AWARE OF IT’S INTENTIONS.
no idea how to actually play this but it looks AWESOME
Cool arts and interesting game.
@eric-nguyen Thanks for you comment!
Unfortunately, "Settle score" button and result screen did not make it into final build -- we tried to get too much in it so it was both unfinished and broken.
We'll sure make it in post-jam version, it was a shame to cut it last moment. Alas, that's what the jam is :smiley:
@t90 Great submission for this jam! And I'm glad you guys are working on a post-jam version, there's potential here!
EDIT: I WAS NOT AWARE OF WHAT THIS GAME'S STORY WAS IMPLYING, AND MADE THIS COMMENT WITHOUT BEING AWARE OF IT'S INTENTIONS.
Graphics are great! I enjoyed the back-and-forth of the characters. Gameplay is tricksy, glad to see you're making a post-jam version.
Artstyle is actually amazing. Storyline is okay, not my cup of tea, but once the main mechanics are introduced, gameplay gets intense. Might I suggest a tutorial though.
Polished and effective game with entertaining sprites and excellent art. The feel of the game (atmosphere) is absolutely on point, with the excellent anime-inspired artwork and military themes. The artwork goes superb to the game. The gameplay is quite interactive, filled with sound-effects which adds to the intuitiveness and intractability of the game. One little criticism-- maybe add more instructions on how to play the game?
Other than that, the game is superb.
Nice moody game. Wasn't entirely sure how everything worked and took a little long to get to the gameplay. But the story and music really sets the mood, love that part.
Intense and of course relevant, and made me realize I'm a "doomscroller" some days :) Well done, I wasn't very good at it but pretty clear how it works and the narrative taking place makes it incredibly intense. Good work and for sure chopped features are all part of really short timelines! But great work with the resources at hand :) Would be cool to be able to skip the intro for future play throughs (just a nice to have!).
This game gives me Missile Command vibes, really great mood, you nailed it! The game was a bit confusing to learn how to play. It took me a while to realize where my cone of fire was. I also ran into this strange bug where it appears that enemies would not be cleaned up after they were destroyed. I could still select them, but I couldn't shoot at them. It definitely made such a stressful game more overwhelming :sweat_smile: imminent-screen.png
Very nice and impressive character design, it seems very natural to mix pixel art and anime together. The visual performance of the gameplay is very simple, but it makes me so cheerful, the experience is just like *13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim*. I stopped when I got 354 points but I still love the game. Of course, if the story scene can be skipped the repeating experience will be better!
I find interesting that when you die in each game you can improve your skills and that allows you more options. I liked the graphics a lot :)
And one more thing, I can't go back to main menu in the credit scene, does someone know how to exit the credit scene? It seems like Esc key is not the right operation:(
@cortexa233 we didn't manage to add pause and exit to the menu in time for submission, but we will definitely do it with patches!
Thanks for your feedback!
I had no idea what this story was implying :(
Cite the art please.
@bozzwtf stable diffusion AI
I love the writing and the story settings, the gameplay was decent although lacking a proper tutorial. The potential is there and I hope to see it to be developed into a more complete game in the future!
"Great game" what whiten by ruchists, what shows the lie how russian "defend" Donetsk (if in game russian not get drunk again, and shoot own aircrafts what attack civilians like always) So all guys what send coments here - know, you support ruchists what killing civilians and try whow like that not them @puhan @georgy16 @dp3rucha @cortexa233 @jackofcups @infecsean @picusbgames @eric-nguyen @alb3rt-w @brandsma
I we had internet in 1942, I imagine the same team would've made a game about "heroic Nazi defenders of Auschwitz".
I understand that it's OK to play Counter Strike for the terrorists. But praising the current day terrorists... Who kill innocent civilians, just right now... it's too much.
Just on the day when Ludum Dare theme was announced the "heroes" of this game have shelled a column which consisted of civilian cars leaving 30 killed and 75 wounded.
Nice pixel art, it is a shame you show in a positive light a state that mobilizes its people to plunder and murder in the other country. Why would you support a government, which for the lack of anime girls, could easily take you from your cozy game dev apartments and throw on the battlefield without basic equipment together with hordes of nasty mobilized convicts to commit atrocities you wouldn`t even think about otherwise. What are you aiming at, making a game about russian terrorist state?
@fedir @general @annbush Congratulations, you've been exposed to the alternative point of view maybe for the first time in your life.
I understand that this might be a traumatic experience, but I would still suggest to continue researching different sources not from your curated news feed.
Having a balanced world-view is good for your mental health :)
@nicekot alternative point of view....hello from Kharkiv... i saw this point on my eyes.... join to the russian warship... or others 60k good russian
your "alternative" is rotting in our fields and polluting the air
@fedir interesting, while I saw mention of DPR and Donetsk I figured we were a UKR launcher. Regardless my feedback and opinion is based on the game not the stance of the creators on the actual conflict which in fact do not align with mine at all.
@picusbgames games about war conflict can`t be out of politic, i understand for u its can be just another war conflict - but for many people its war russian army vs civilian, because thay cant win vs an ua army, and scenario where rusian are not just murders, killers and home technique thiefs its part of game , and for many people this will be important...dont think game what try show murders, killers and home technique thiefs like a good guys can have any chance to even be in rates of civilized events... this people and their army killed more than 100k civilian ( by not oficial data) 400 childrens( by oficial) 10k warriors, and for 8 years thay kill 5 k civilian and 5 k defenders of Ukraine, on Ukraine lands... and now thay make game to make this bastards look like good guys...great...lets humanize reich then...
as we used to say in Ukraine "яке прикре самогубство"
@fedir take a moment to reflect. Why do you think what you think? How you can be sure that what you think is true? What are you doing here in the comments? Why are your repeating the poorest takes imaginable? Have you ever heard of Taran's theorem?
I can give you a hint. You've been fed a strict undisputed narrative, your information bubble is thick and constantly reinforced. You are not questioning even the most odd claims. You have turned yourself into the relay of propaganda. Don't think, just spread the word.
What a sad sight.
@nicekot yea and friends in army, and refugees are part of propaganda) But you see better, probably from Moscow) and destroyed parks...and part of missiles near houses... why you think everyone others just like u, believe in propaganda, you think all people in this word stupid like russians? What i do here in coments ? i canceling russian shit...hope your game will get blocked...ruchist doesn't can have place in adequative and civilized society
@fedir the only thing got cancelled here is your sanity.
@nicekot absolutely same can be said about you, and it even will be more true actually. Common, there is one guy from Kharkiv in comment section, who saw himself what's going on, what propaganda are you talking about?
@nicekot зображення_2022-10-04_230825421.png
@NiceKot and what exactly is "balanced" in world view that is praising the military forces of obvious agressor? From what point of view this war is somehow justifiable? What claims from your bubble did you question and how the hell it ended up with this bullshit? Like, really, I'm curious, you are using the favorite genocide supporters argument of "not everything is so clear", so please tell me what is not clear about the fucking rushist svastika in your game?
Hello from Kyiv. My friend sent me link of this "awesome" game. Tomorrow I'll drink coffee in front of this roofless and windowless propaganda for blocking your shit. Have a bad day ;)IMG_20221004_232518_661.jpg
@fedir @ackiybolt
We get it buddy. Collect your victim points and get out of here. Just because you found yourself nice bubble to live doesn't mean everyone in the world should comply with your views and bow to your demands.
As for glorifying violence, "rushism" (whatever that is) or anything else you imply, game has none of that, which can be easily verified by, you know, simply playing the game.
But you're angry not because of that. You're angry because something contradicts your worldview and you want it gone.
So you'll claim whatever to get get game pulled, authors blocked and critics go silent.
Screenshot_20221004_232933.png
@t90 ruchism - ideology of rusian, new fachism, and you set in in game when confirm russian troops invade ukrainian teritory(Donetsk) so whats wrong? Im not mad at u,or plaing victim. i just don't want terrorist be a part of adequate and civilize society - every russian is a terrorist, rusian what show war what thay start - ruchists, so what are u doing here ? in society what army what u support try destroy . U want nuke war ? u want destroy west ? You want killing EU and USA, this is not from news or anywhere...its just your leaders,army generals say...easy even to google it...so why are u here in the part of society what u want destroy...go back to russia... create jam for yourself... create games for your young terorists ... russian are not civilized people...especially people like u what show murderers and terorists in good light...
@t90
So many words about worldview. If you guys so concern about it, why you develop shitty games instead of came to enlistment office, come to us and proof to world that your point is true? Also you can protect civilians from their dental implants as did your worldview-friends recently in Pisky-Rad'kivs'ki, Kharkiv Oblast IMG_20221004_223925_417.jpg
vatniks copium intensifies. Among all these useless threads, I have only one truly serious question for u guys @nicekot, @amikatag, @t90: **hui budete?**
pepe2.jpg
Hey folks. Can we please be civil?
Insulting and bashing each-other is not what we do here.
Wow, what a great game, with an interesting story, thanks. The art is cool, did you have a professional artist? And... xoxols, xoxols never change... 😔
I appreciate effort making game about protecting lives of those who Ukraine and "civilized world" does not consider to be human. Using AI art it impressive.
Cool game, but something wrong with balance. At the "endgame", while there are many targets,anti-aircraft calculation efficiency has dropped to almost zero. For some reason, at best, I shot down 3 targets from the entire volley, and sometimes all 10 missiles went nowhere.
Cool game!
@fedir Save yourself, try to play the game, you are mad with your state's propaganda. Go and touch some grass as Neko did.
@pov Sorry Mike, we cannot stay silent while our country is constantly bombed by army which is glorified by authors. War is not over and putin is using “defending poor people of Donbas” narrative - same as this game’s plot! - to justify his colonial war against Ukraine. My wife is from Donetsk region, so I have plenty of first-hand information about what’s going on. And this night Iranian drones flew over my town and hit buildings in Bila Tserkva. You can see by yourself how far it is from so-called DPR. At the same time authors asked their friends to create new accounts - or created them themselves - to enhance their position. @onedude even used an ethnic slur for Ukrainians. So sorry once again, but I find this game insulting.
@general You got everything mixed up buddy. This game does not praise neo-nazi ukranian regime in the sligtest. In fact you are playing as a Russian SAM defending civilian population and military installations from the attacks of ukranian terrorists.
@n-feofentov While so-called Ukraine has been killing civilians in the DPR for 8 years, it was fine for you. When so-called Ukraine burned people alive in Odessa, it was fine for you too. But when these people are being protected, you started screaming all over the Internet and pretending that you are a victim, not an aggressor.
Holy shit comments are gold, khoholbots shitting themselves live, and based devs deflecting punches like a martial artists.
@hrkcz001 lol propaganda? i live here. she is make game to show murders of civilian people like a good guys she and her game is bullshit
@pov so Ludum dare is support genocide, rusian terroristic states and organizations? becouse this game is show like they are doing good things, is that ok for u?
Lmao, so many russo-swinedog bots that signed up 2-5 hrs ago. Try to make some games first, morons. And then post your precious opinion about world politics sitting in a shithole with a stolen washing machine and toilet. For normal people, I would advise spending your time on real game entries, in terms of comments and ratings
@fedir Yes, and what?
61261229.jpg
@soarins rosijska-armiya-obnyat-i-plakat-bugas-doneczka-oblast-dnr-photo_2022-03-09_17-35-54.jpg converted to good russian 246752.jpg now they can`t kill innocents people, and ruin cities, wish this fate to all russian what support their army of murderers and thiefs
@fedir
d6b431a310cdd63b.jpg
Good game! I like visual art and the story in the start. The main gameplay looks really cool, but I didn't understand, how to play with it so my screen was really messed up with some icons. So maybe some deeper tutorial will be great for that game, at least on the itch page. Also I want to say, that icons with characters at the top-left corner is really good idea, so I can feel that they interacting with the player. Nice job!
@fedir IMG_20220701_004219_654.jpg
Best wishes from TOS-1
Thanks to the developers for playing with such a rare idea. You have a good visual style!
@fedir Here, have some pics of good hоhols, pretty nice example of the future of their comrades :) 181jA6jJE4tqgp1QcXlPsiVGIpTL7FTxoAFW4hlolMt7Kjj_khDtN4d566dEtlpKIaZpwmft_UIwQeyw6Ek72A3s.jpg -uAsW3JO2x0MWzj3AaNdfSyG1GGihHG9f2BPM4xvgzQaDPS7n-igaDcvVxNV8q1r9Uvo1GoMq4xAa28afZWHPwyc.jpg
@xopoc73821 ukrainian army are heroes what defend own land, some of them dead heroes but heroes - when russian just a shit what come to Ukraine to rape, and kill civilian(And make a gesture of goodwill back to the russian borders...good luck with that, idiots)) but u will never understand this...because u russian... what mean idiot by the definition
Sending corpses of dead soliders is a great red flag of radical and inadequate world view. This applies to both sides
(t. pro-Russian)
P.S. Didn't try the game now, but it actually looks interesting
The author is a great fellow, the game is conceptual and very relevant these days. I wish you great creative success from the bottom of my heart!
@Fedir Russian soldiers are heroes, who liberate their own people, land and punish those who took it with rape and torture, as they deserve. Russia feeds Russian land with the blood of urkainian occupiers to make a good growing season - the only thing hohols can be used for, now go oink and die in a meatrush to Russian city of Kherson)
@ega1232387 that's an unfortunate turn of events, but, to be honest, it was inevitable after the first ukrainian nationalist in the thread. I tried to keep the discussion at least somewhat civil, but they are not interested in anything except mob tactics to cancel everyone who disagrees with them. No wonder that some people from pro-Russian side decides to show them that two can play this game.
Right now they are spamming the owner of Ludum Dare in twitter, using false moral arguments to push him to delete our entry to LD. And this was also expected.
Anyway, if you decide to try the game, we would appreciate any feedback!
Came for the hell in comments, stayed for actual game.
I like the idea, and execution is pretty good. I did encountered a bug with ammo counter (one bulb always stays lit), but it's very minor.
One thing i missed, however, is hit feedback. It would be cool to see missile tracks, or - since it would make situation less "fog of war"-y - a list of active missiles and their targets. So you know that your missile flies at some target, but you will find out if it hit or not only after next radar sweep. P.S.: Nice to see Godot being used, i need to get back to that engine one day (but i am lazy :P)
I also came for the comments. Without them I wouldn't have heard about this project.)
Now the complaints. There is absolutely no training. It took me a long time to guess how to control rocket launcher, what parameters are responsible for what. The paper on the right does not help. Absolutely incomprehensible system of destruction. Under what conditions the missile hits the target, and under what conditions it does not hit?
I hope when the development is over and it become a stand-alone game, these problems will disappear. Good luck)
Lok'tar ogar and cheers from the proud Russian orc, seems to be much better game than any poorly made pro-Ukrainian shovelware. Glory to Donbass and Mother Russia, we will definitely endure this massive hate campaign. The stronger they hate, the harder they fall when we win.
Still hope to play some (J)RPG based on this topic.
Cite your art.
Nice lil game, would love to buy the finished product. Also gj at making ukronazis seethe, god bless you.
@bozzwtf Hi! I have already mentioned, that we generated all of the art with the stable diffusion AI. This is also stated in the credits.
@plovvkusni @dansi212 @eiesoldar @jhin-grace Thanks for the feedback and support guys!
Giving that we had only three days to develop the game from scratch, it was necessary to cut a lot of corners and butcher bunch of ideas/features.
Right now we are thinking about adding a story mode with a few missions and built-in tutorial, refining the mechanics, cleaning the UI, fixing art and getting rid of the bugs.
As for the hit probability, it's just a percentage based probability depending on the target type. That's it.
Guys why are you here? I know that MOZZER rUZZIA going into mobilization, because I would love to play this sh*t in live with you, or you already in Kazakhstan or Georgia?) I so like ruzzians, oh, I almost forget to introduce you my ruzzian friend Boris, say hi to Boris! He sooooooo liked Ukraine, that he decided to stay forever in Lyman city.photo_2022-10-02_18-31-43.jpg
that feel when someone makes game about "current thing" and comments get bombarded with couch-politicans who spend most of the day talking in comments how it's bad and evil, while they post dead bodies in comments which is probably against site rules, amazing right?
Ebal materey sozdateley, ludi bez duha. Gotov povtorit v lico
@workers this is what complete moral bankruptcy looks like.
Это.Просто.Охуенно. Игра, повествующая о военных преступлениях хохлов против жителей Донецка и Луганска, заслуживает только отличной оценки. (Всем захохлам и хохлам - идите.на.хуй.)
photo_2022-10-01_20-52-40.jpg
Truly ironic that people using western event to spread propaganda whitewashing unlawful invasion of Ukraine and atrocities that russian army has committed. All the while russian regime gone not only full hitler, but also full retard given their continuous setbacks and losses against much smaller country to which they can only answer with indiscriminate shelling of civilians and infrastructure, generating extreme amounts of copium claiming they're waging war against whole "western world".
So if the authors are making this game from the safety of some western country, their mental gymnastics are truly something astonishing.
Otherwise you have my praise for finishing russian project with the least amount of budget stolen (given that it was null to begin with). And while you probably won't make it to russian military R&D, I do hope that you get drafted and will try your luck against HARM missiles as a crew of SAM launcher or more likely just get thrown at ukie positions with mosins or rusty aks.
Nice game I'm usually against these type of games but if it's anime then it's fine lol but yeah if a country attacking other and you make a game of it supporting the one who is doing it is generally wrong.. like all theses old ps2 games where USA game developers did during post 9/11 paranoia worst one is fugitive hunter lol Anyway hope you makes some tutorial cause I really don't understand how to shoot things thanks for the delivery
@yukiari We are ourselves huge anime fans, so I can relate.
Thanks a lot for your feedback. There will be definitely a tutorial and more content in general with patches.
Regarding your take on the "generally wrong" side it's much more complicated to it then "just one country attacking the other". We are in this strife for a very long time, the war didn't begin this year, not even 8 years ago. I would gladly explain the history behind the current military escalation, but I just don't think that comment section of Ludum Dare game-jam is the best place for history and geopolitics discussions :)
@lionel-mandrake hryukpixel.png
Very interesting choice to go with villain protagonists, not many devs are willing to do that. Hats off to your dev team. Were you perhaps inspired by Spec Ops: The Line? I think to make the game more realistic you should consider the ability to bomb hospitals and schools as per Russian doctrine in Syria, even a four year old Ukrainian child can threaten the great Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - never mind a cluster of forty or more! Additionally there are things like Holocaust Memorials and Synagogues which pose a grave threat to Russian air assets, the ability to eliminate those fascist strongholds will heighten the experience. It's not realistic without the indiscriminate killing of civilians. Target verification is for those effeminate western fascists.
Further improvements such as shelling active nuclear power plants, misplacing millions of winter uniforms, and having to remind VDV pilots what the concept of dry land is. Maybe add a new game plus called "mobilization mode" where you have no ammunition or supplies and instead of a UAV it's the same DSHKa that your grandfather used during the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia. I think anime girls are fine but you really need to immerse the player into the grimdark reality that you have been sent like lambs unto slaughter by a collapsing kleptocracy that has already begin killing each other back in Moscow. Except for Dugin's daughter, that was probably a collaboration between the CIA and Ukrainian intelligence assets and you gotta admire the pizzazz of a car bomb detonating in the middle of the Moscow night.
Anyway wish you all the best of luck when the army inevitably mutinies en masse because Russian logistics are so overtaxed they can't feed their own troops. It's gonna be hard to release updates when, in a panicked last-ditch effort to quell dissent, Putin's inner circle shuts down the internet.
10/10 game.
Even as someone who is on the opposite side of the conflict this game was based upon, I'll admit I do find the game itself to be quite enjoyable. Hats off to the devs for making a rather fun and challenging simulator game here, and the sense of humor you guys have is pretty solid too. I can't wait for the post game-jam update to come out, because right now what this game could definitely use is a tutorial mission or at least a pre-amble of sorts so you can get an idea for the controls before throwing us into the shitbox. Times are tough for everyone right now, so I won't make any snide remarks. Hope everyone here in the comments section is doing okay, likewise for the devs. Trying to keep a sense of humor with everyone wondering about heavy topics like nuclear war isn't easy, so I applaud you guys for that.
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/60a0ae3c6aa172ab0b295577ce328ba23fe0c911d68a650a4f9214068e860135/detection
mind explaining?
Неплохая игра, надеюсь неадекватов тут будет поменьше в будущем :3 (Извиняюсь что без конкретики по игре)
An excellent game despite the fact that many nazi supporters who support the genocide of the civilian population of Donbass by the Ukrainian Reich are trying to slander the whole situation and insult the developers. Шлю лучи добра разработчикам.
@herptyderpoty
Actually, that's very easy to explain.
1. Short explanation: due to how Godot (engine used by our game) packs game into single binary, it might trip some antiviruses.
2. Long explanation.
So let's talk how Godot (game engine) works.
Game is written in scripting language GDScript. At first, scripting language is compiled in bytecode. When packing game in single binary, you get to choose — have separate archive with code and assets (GameName.pck) or embed that PCK file in engine binary (Checkbox "Embed PCK" in export options).
So, we have a binary + code/asset archive packed together. What does that prove?
Now let's create simple project in godot with no code, export it with enabled PCK Embedding and upload it to virustotal.
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/744eda257a90b5146a0460210f26ca055dd524b4fd602d567d39fc08255403dd/detection
Boom! It has the same 1 warning -- from same vendor -- and even same signature. It's an **empty project**.
By the way, you can totally do it yourself, go to https://godotengine.org/ , download IDE, create empty project, save Root scene, then Export project (Check "Embed PCK") and upload your file to virustotal.
---
Issue about that in Godot github: https://github.com/godotengine/godot/issues/45563
---
If you still don't believe it, let's take someone's else Godot game with enabled "Embed PCK".
For example, this Ludum Dare 49 submission, The Blue Bedroom: https://ldjam.com/events/ludum-dare/49/the-blue-bedroom
Aaaand it's virustotal page:
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/67fb9622ed1b988118233e88a449ebc13deb94518ccaae4fef8db35ed7c8d167
Same warning.
---
And it you still don't believe us, simply play HTML5 version. Either here, on Ludum Dare website, or on Itch.io. I personally recommend Itch.io, it has correct dimensions (Ludum Dare website doesn't allow us to set custom viewport dimensions, neither it has option to enable fullscreen.).
@cerebralpolicy Suzu said "хрюкни" and you did just that
Is one of the missions to shoot down a civilian plane with hundreds of innocent people on it and to come up with 20 completely different stories to attempt to place the blame on Ukrainians, only to then have international investigations discover your guilt?
I made an account just to say thank you to the developers. I haven't played the game myself, but it takes great courage to stand up against the hate propaganda machine the way you guys have. I imagine this entry will be taken down very soon (those western values hard at work), but please do not despair: you are very good people doing very good work.
Don't worry about the sillies in the comments. The truth is on your - our - side, after all <3
@sided-o the more topic progresses - the sillier ukroNPC's takes become.
Made an account to let you know that I like your game and to thank you for standing up against Western propagandists!
As for the game, I'm looking forward to the post-Ludum Dare version. I'd suggest putting instructions in the game if not an outright tutorial, because as it stands I'm not quite sure what I'm doing. Additionally, maybe the ability to skip the intro in some way ("skip intro button", "story mode" that has the intro and an end state vs. "infinity mode" that skips the intro and just goes forever, &c.). Also there's no way to exit the credits screen or exit the game (or pause the game) so maybe add that into the finished product. I know most people have told you all this already, I'm just reiterating it because they're my criticisms for the game as well.
Wish you all the best and don't let the Hohols get you down.
Personally, I like games with simple gameplay like [Vampire Survivors](https://vampiresurvivors3.com). A classic survival game with horror zombies.
Imminent is a very good game, but I personally like games that stimulate the gut like [sinister squidward](https://sinistersquidward.com/) more, the lively feeling when playing is also very attractive.