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Amongst Shadows

By blackbulletiv

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CategoryRankScoreCount
Coolness367
Overall273.89
Mood303.79
Audio443.56
Fun563.60
Graphics1253.66
Innovation2603.09
Theme3983.14
Humor5142.08

Comments

epiplon 2012-12-17 02:14

I really liked this game. Mostly, because of the AI behavior. They see everything in front of them, they notice dead buddies and they search for you.
The only thing that I found hard was to stab, it needs to be precise to do it.
It's a great work!

tobiasw 2012-12-17 04:46

Sweet - the best LD25 entry I've played so far. As epiplon said, the AI is quite cool. I love how they run left and right over their dead colleagues, it looks so agitated.

The controls feel good. Sometimes it's really hard to land a hit though, but I guess that's okay, because sometimes the enemy has a hard time hitting me too.

And don't get me started on the lighting and the ambient soundtrack. Very atmospheric!

Overall: A really good entry. I can't wait to read the code later on!

blackbulletiv 2012-12-17 06:18

Wow, I really wasn't expecting such positive feedback, thanks guys. Believe it or not, there's nothing in the code to that make enemies notice their dead comrades. However, enemies search around the last known position of the player, and that often tends to be where a guard kills.

As for it being hard to land a hit, it was easier when running in in the desktop Shockwave player (better performance). I could increase the distance to hit slightly; I don't think it would break the rules, since it's a minor port (from desktop to web) issue.

saintheiser 2012-12-17 15:40

Not bad, man. But slightly buggy for me =(

mvt 2012-12-17 16:20

Good IA, good graphics, but a little little bit hard and it miss accuracy with the knife.
Good job anyway. :)

casino-jack 2012-12-17 22:33

Really tricky until I realised you could actually hide in the shadows.

blackbulletiv 2012-12-17 23:19

SaintHeiser and MvT: Sorry about the buggy backstabbing. It seems that Flash/FlashPunk has some kind of input lag when in the browser. At any rate, I don't plan on using the system for Ludum Dare again.

Casino Jack: I stated that you could do that in the title screen. :P

marekkpie 2012-12-19 03:00

Excellent, excellent game. Must have played Mark of the Ninja recently.

blackbulletiv 2012-12-19 09:58

Thank you. I've actually never heard of Mark of the Ninja. This took inspiration from Dishonored, and in turn, the Thief series (though I've never played the latter).

bigbadwofl 2012-12-19 11:43

Good entry. I quite liked it. Could do with some polish, but what you have here is fun as is.

colapsydo 2012-12-20 11:32

Really nice work on all levels.
I will repeat what others said, but the game mechanics (AI + shadows + backstab) are impressive and make this entry fun and involving.

seconddimension 2012-12-20 13:40

Great game. I liked the sprites a lot, and it did seem like the enemies were hunting me down. I especially liked the sound, I used GarageBand & bfxr for my audio as well. You did a way better job than me on sound effects, they fitted really well.

ltyrosine 2012-12-22 17:31

This game have everything to go well in kongregate and other flash portals. Nice soundtrack, fun gameplay.

deathbysnail 2012-12-22 23:36

Stabby Stabby! I ended up just darting past everything in the end, and it was easier than I thought to do.

dioiminik 2012-12-22 23:45

Great Entry :D

JFlegle 2012-12-24 00:24

Great game as is.

garethjenkins 2012-12-24 09:13

Love the look and feel -- slightly too hard to not be frustrated, but the simplified stealth thing could work really well I think.

CireNeikual 2012-12-25 02:54

Pretty fun, kind of moody! The collision detection for the backstabbing seemed a little bit off though.

h-attila 2012-12-25 09:26

I think it's a hard, but nice game.

twilightflandre 2012-12-25 17:29

Yea I'm definitely getting some Mark of the Ninja vibes from this game. The ambiance and mood being very, very similar to the game itself. Personally I would of liked a bit more variance in the character's design but it's probably my screen making their colors look almost barely distinguishable. The game is punishing, which is exactly how like my stealth games. And while it is a bit short it is by no means lacking. I'd love to play any further version of this game.

blackbulletiv 2012-12-25 22:57

Thanks for the feedback guys.

TwilightFlandre:
Now that I've taken a look at some Mark of the Ninja gameplay, I can see what you and MarekkPie are saying; it is pretty similar.

As for the character similarity, that would make sense. I used a dark blue for the guards, and black for the player.

Well, now I'm thinking of actually doing some more with this game, although I'd want to remake it in Love2D, not FlashPunk; that would get rid of the input lag problem.

milo 2012-12-26 15:45

This was a neat game. It made really good use of light and shadow and did so in a way I haven't really seen before. It looks really nice s a game and creates a generally dark mood.

I feel like the controls were a bit difficult though, especially with stabbing, so a few levels, I mostly just ran.

colincapurso 2012-12-27 00:19

I really liked it. I think the lighting should move to get a better feel of the land and add a bit of challenge.

sestren 2012-12-27 00:38

This was a lot of fun to play. The slight delay between when the guards got stabbed and when they fell over dead was perfect. The AI, though dumb as you mentioned, played perfectly off of your ability to draw them into the shadows. A very simple idea that is pulled off extremely well.

blackbulletiv 2012-12-27 01:45

Milo: Thanks. It's a shame about the input lag. I fear I may drop a point or two overall just because of that.

colincapurso: Yeah, I was going give some guards flashlights but didn't really have time to do so.

Sestren: I quite like the delay as well; they actually drop to their knees, then fall, although the drop is only one pixel down. Thanks for the feedback. :)

ilo 2012-12-30 02:32

The AI could be better in situations where you are close and you run past them they don't turn around, and maybe they shouldn't willingly follow you into the shadows to be stabbed so easily (they have guns after all).

The mechanics felt good though - I particularly liked the way you could lure a guard over an edge while you waited up against the wall - and I kept playing even after completing it. :)

If you continue to work on this, maybe make the guards a little smarter, the level layouts less linear, the environment more dynamic (guards with flashlights, searchlights if you get spotted, lights that go on and off) and perhaps teach the player a new new mechanic or two along the way. I think it would be an excellent flash game then. :)

bugninja 2013-01-06 21:29

Another favorite for sure. Great platforming, really interesting graphics, I feel like I'm peeking in. It's really really hard too.