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Slicer

By dramentiaras

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CategoryRankScoreCount
Innovation1463.71
Theme3273.57
Graphics5232.90
Overall5323.14
Mood6492.63
Fun7622.67
Coolness190228

Comments

thecain 2016-04-19 01:30

Unique and interesting. Ridiculously hard though.

dramentiaras 2016-04-20 08:59

Yeah, I wanted it to be hard. Might have overdone it though :P

realitycheck 2016-04-20 12:10

Very difficult indeed, but I like the idea. Took me a while to figure out the mechanics, and it would have been nice with a couple of more slow moving levels to begin with. But, still an interesting concept.

dsmeathers 2016-04-20 12:16

Really good take on the theme. It feels like there's a really, really good game hiding in there, but I had to give up on the second level because it's too hard.

If it was hard because you had to think about how to arrange the slicers to make it work then that would be really good. Unfortunately its hard because you don't have anywhere near enough time to place them, they get removed between each attempt, and they're kind of awkward to place (you have to click on the track rather than being able to click near it).

So yeah, I don't think it's too difficult, I think it's the wrong kind of difficulty. It should be logical difficulty not mechanical difficulty.

I'm honestly kind of gutted because it seems like this could be a really great game but as it stands right now, it's just too frustrating to play. Sorry!

dramentiaras 2016-04-20 13:01

@dsmeathers I'm really sorry to hear that! I definitely understand you, while I like the quick gameplay combined with fast thinking, but I know others don't.

I'm considering making a Post Compo version, and will definitely take you're thoughts into an account.

katorovitalo 2016-04-21 16:14

I like difficult games, I do not however like when the games are difficult due to control issues. It feels there is a good idea for a game here but the controls are stopping me from enjoying it. Still, that being said, I like the groundwork you got here. I like the minimalist design of everything and I haven't encountered any bugs, so nice work! You should continue tweaking this game and making it better because I would love to play a future version of this game! :)

zenmumbler 2016-04-21 16:23

Interesting idea but the levels start way too quickly and it's rather complicated to position things. You can only increase the difficulty once people are used to the controls and concept.

holyblackcat 2016-04-21 17:00

First of all, the idea is great! It was kinda hard, but I've completed a few levels and it was fun.

I really appreciate that you've made some some kind of learning curve, but the game was still hard.

Exceptional difficulty makes it less fun.
I understand that you made it interesting for yourself, but whenever you make a game, almost always your players will be surprisingly unskilled at it from your point of view.
You're the developer, you're always going to be one of the best players in your own game.

Let me tell you about my game as an example: I'm (almost) not hardcore platformer player, but I'm able to complete all 15 levels with 3-6 death with little efforts. On the other hand, my players were often unable to finish. One of them who actually did, said that he got ~80 deaths. And that's expected result, I think other players got similar scores.

This should give you an idea on how better you are at your game than your players.

This is some ideas on how you can make it more player-friendly: You can, for example, spawn multiple boxes and let players freely place and destroy machines; remove 1 box limit, but add time limit. But that may sound too easy. If you don't want it to be that easy, you can at least add few seconds of delay before the box starts moving; this would allow players to think and to start placing machines before the box moves.

But, don't worry about this too much. The game is still fun to play and pretty unique. Good job.

mintarcade 2016-04-21 21:29

Very innovative game. It is hard, as many people mention, but I think if you implement some sort of start timer - that way you still have hard game as intended, but less frustrating with all the level restarts. Nice game, I'd definitely play more.

dramentiaras 2016-04-22 20:38

Thank you all for your feedback! I'll keep them in mind if I decide to make a post compo version of the game.

2016-04-26 16:47

I completed the first few levels, but it wasn't fun...
Don't get me wrong, this was a great take on the theme, graphics looked nice, only some SFX and music was missing.
Sadly, this was simply based on how fast you click, and for me that's not fun. It's not that I don't like difficult games, it's more about the terrible controls.
HolyBlackCat pointed out pretty well, that games like this need to be tested, and then tested again.

dat_not_my_game 2016-04-30 16:52

Interesting puzzle about box slicing.

leftright92 2016-05-02 07:37

A really good concept, but I feel the fact you went for a near reactions-based difficulty detracts from the game.

danex317 2016-05-02 11:11

Way to unnecessarily hard. I understand wanting to make the puzzles difficult to figure out but I couldn't even move my mouse fast enough when I knew the answer. Just giving the player a chance to set the board before the conveyors started would change the whole feel.

arvydas 2016-05-02 18:45

The mechanics are really nice and innovative, but i don't like the fact that to achieve a shape you SHOULD put the slicers in a specific ways, and other ways that give you the same final shape don't count.

unclechris 2016-05-02 19:45

I feel it was very difficult to figure out, lots of reading that then would cause you to lose your place as the blocks started moving and level over.

Needed more time to get accustomed to the interface and instructions before the block started. Too much to read and then RESTART, at least restart was the level and not back to beginning. I had to figure out what I already knew and what was up, and the block was already moving.

I had to give up on the mirror placement level, cause it was impossible to click all the locations for me in time before the block started down the path.

Also the difference wasn't enough between the various machine buttons which were available and those not available. Maybe during your "tutorial" levels, you greyed out or didn't even display those. They added TOO much interface to look over. Crank up the difficulty after a player understands the basics.

I agree with others, mentally hard and physically hard are very different and tutorial levels shouldn't start out on hardcore/insane mode. Made me lose interest quickly in an interesting idea.